We caught up with the brilliant and insightful Jordyn Smith a few weeks ago and have shared our conversation below.

Jordyn, looking forward to hearing all of your stories today. Can you talk to us about a risk you’ve taken – walk us through the story?

When I decided to pursue astrology, I knew I would be taking a risk. I grew up in Oklahoma in a religious fundamentalist family. On my maternal side they are Catholic and on my paternal side they are Southern Baptist. I grew up going to private Catholic school. On Easter Sunday’s I would go to my great Uncle’s church and hear either him or my own father preach. I had always leaned into my indigenous roots (paternal grandmother) and had an affinity for Star knowledge and natural medicines. This was something I kept hidden for a long time because of how it was viewed by my family. I was already the “oddball” in the family because I openly questioned the beliefs I was being conditioned to believe. In my early twenties I catered to the expectations of my family. I worked in hair and makeup at first. I did really well in that career. Yet I felt something was missing. I wanted to be more of service. I then started to work in mental health. I worked at a rehab facility for adolescent females who were experiencing addiction. I worked as a clinical assistant, and I held creative writing workshops weekly for the girls. At this time, I was in college studying to get a bachelor’s in psychology. I had personally been in therapy since I was twelve years old.
I came to a place where I felt traditional therapy wasn’t working for me anymore and I also experienced some adversity within my own family. I felt like I had lost sight of who I was. Checking boxes for my family. Not connected to what I wanted or felt I wanted to pursue.
It was when I had my second child at 28 that I decided to reconnect with what I had always loved. Natural medicine and astrology. This is because not only did I have an affinity for them both, but the natural laws that were connected with them resonated deeply for me. The first big risk was quitting college. I wanted to dive into astrology and at that time I had two kids. No time to study astrology while being a mom and in college. I decided to devote myself to studying astrology instead of finishing my degree.
When I decided to become an astrologer, I knew I would be taking a risk; being judged by my own family and community. Every fear I had about pursuing and becoming an astrologer came true. I was judged. I experienced being on the “outs” with my family. They were afraid I was going to hell. I knew that was not the case. Instead, my spirituality deepened. My values and personal needs became clearer. I wanted to be of service to others in a way that resonated with my own individuality, authenticity, and spirituality. Even if that meant I wasn’t going to fit in with my family of origin. That risk confronted me with truths within my family system. Yet my heart didn’t harden. I came into more acceptance. Not just for my family, but for myself. It helped me become a better parent. This is because I wanted to mirror to my children through my own actions that they could show up and be who they wanted to in the world, whatever that looked like, and still be accepted and loved. Even if it was just me.
Often times, my work with being a consulting astrologer is helping others to reconnect with their natural selves. Especially women. Holding space and listening to them as they deconstruct their own conditioning, especially around family values and expectations. That has been rewarding for me. It has also helped me to continue to heal vicariously through them.
The biggest lesson that the risk of choosing to become an astrologer that I have learned and taken; being able to sit with the consequences of that choice and to be proud of myself because I knew I was taking a chance on myself. That I still stand by that choice. That I feel pride in that choice. Especially because had I not taken that risk, I wouldn’t have evolved in the way that I have. I wouldn’t have been able to connect and help others in the way that I have. Through the service of consulting with others about their own astrology. To being a mirror to my own kids that you really can be anything you want to be!

Jordyn, before we move on to more of these sorts of questions, can you take some time to bring our readers up to speed on you and what you do?

I am an Evolutionary Astrologer based in Western Massachusetts, where I live with my two children and four animals on three acres of land. My journey into astrology began during my Saturn Return at 27 years old while living in my hometown of Oklahoma City. This happened after I experienced personal and familial adversity. I had been in an abusive relationship with my oldest child’s father who attempted to commit femicide against me and ultimately committed femicide against another young woman. This experience that unfolded over the span of 6 years challenged me to look at the “why” of it all. It also challenged me to reconnect with what I had always loved, astrology and natural medicine. This is because intuitively I felt it would help me. I had been in traditional therapy from 12-27 years old and felt that there might be another modality that could help me understand the “why” on a deeper level. This isn’t to dismiss traditional therapy. I do not feel that astrology is a replacement for traditional therapy. Nor do I feel that astrology is therapy. For me personally, I felt that I needed another tool to use in tandem with traditional therapy to help me discover more about myself.

It was through following my “inner hunch” about this that I discovered Evolutionary Astrology as taught by Jeffery Wolf Green. Once I found this area of astrology, I couldn’t put it down. It helped me to expand upon different dynamics within myself that I was having trouble expanding upon in traditional settings. This created a deep reverence within me for this work. I wanted to learn it in hopes of helping others to connect with it too.

Prior to discovering Evolutionary Astrology, I worked in the hair and makeup industry before moving on to work with adolescent females struggling with mental health challenges. While working with these young women I was able to use creative writing as a tool to help them process trauma and addiction. I also spoke at the local YWCA & United Way to raise awareness about domestic violence, playing a key role in advancing legislation in Oklahoma that supports women and their parental rights.

For the past seven years, I have been using Evolutionary Astrology to consult clients, helping them navigate their soul’s journey with clarity and authenticity. This is done through one-on-one consulting sessions, workshops, and lecturing for different astrology associations.

Beginning in 2021, I taught Evolutionary Astrology in the Oklahoma City metro area, guiding students to reconnect with their inner voice and move beyond societal conditioning. When I still lived in Oklahoma, I would hold a workshop that taught about the collective Soul of Oklahoma. Where I would go over the natal chart of Oklahoma and use key transits. These transits included the Trail of Tears, Black Wallstreet Massacre, the Murrah Bombing, and the May 5th Tornado.

Since relocating to Massachusetts, I have expanded my practice, working with clients and students worldwide. I have been a key lecturer the last three years for the Jefferey Wolf Green Evolutionary Astrology Association. I will be a lecturer at the upcoming UAC conference in Chicago held in September 2026.

I also hold online and in-person workshops to teach those who are wanting to learn Evolutionary Astrology whether as a professional or for their own personal knowledge. My longest ongoing workshop that I hold bi-annually is titled: “Karmic Inheritance”. This is a favorite because we look at the archetypal patterns within three generations of a family. This is done through the lens of Evolutionary Astrology.

My teaching covers topics such as Natural Law, sexuality, trauma within the natal chart, and the reclaiming of personal authority, with a focus on helping individuals understand the “why” of this lifetime and embrace their authentic nature on their evolutionary path.

I have an affinity for the asteroid goddesses. Utilizing them to untangle the “yarn ball” of truth held within their myths, origins, and history. This has helped me connect with Natural Truths held within the feminine principle. Helping to strip away distortions of the patriarchy. To give these women a voice by another woman. I do this through connecting them through research, the transits, and other’s natal charts. It does not matter how someone identifies, the feminine principle resides within all of us. As does the masculine principle. This is more about uncovering the natural expression of these principles. This is something I feel sets me apart from others. My ability to connect with the more obscure archetypes of the asteroids that are not often talked about or researched. How this as a consequence helps those I work with to connect with something that felt more obscure within themselves and shining a light on it. I have written papers on different asteroids on my website. This is what I mostly get asked to lecture on at conferences. I also often talk about them on my YouTube channel where I give weekly astrological forecasts.

I am most proud of the ongoing work I am doing within astrology pertaining to asteroids. Connecting with obscure archetypes that in my opinion, need a voice. Just like the other archetypes in astrology, they give voice to parts within us on our own journey. It gives deeper language and insight to areas that lacked acknowledgement or feeling seen and understood. One of the main asteroids I have been highlighting lately is the asteroid Lucretia. She has historical roots and was an actual person. Not just a myth. She is deeply connected to what is currently going on in the world right now. She represents archetypally those who expose corruption and are a catalyst for collective evolutionary growth.

I also feel that I have the ability for others to open up to me. I am often told that I feel like a “best friend” even though someone has just met me. I feel this is my ability to actually hear where someone is coming from and not automatically project onto them what and who they are just by looking at their astrological chart. I look at each person as an individual that is unique. Then I let the archetypes expand through the nature of what it is that the person who is expressing to me reflects.

Ethics and the scope of my practice are very important to me. I think this comes from my background working in mental health (not as a therapist) and having a mom who is a medical malpractice attorney. Being honest about what I am and am not capable of. So often in this industry, lines become blurred in regard with traditional therapy/psychology. It is important for each astrologer to remember that we are not therapist. Some are. They have become licensed and utilize that in tandem with their astrology practice. Those who aren’t need to remember that because real harm can occur when the scope of their astrological practice isn’t defined. I feel me openly talking about this and voicing it also sets me apart.

What I want others to understand about me and my work is that it is forever evolving. There is always more to learn. That is my pursuit in this work; to continue to learn. To continue to show up ethically. To continue to be open and honest. To not judge others when they give me the honor of their own vulnerability. All of this is very important to me. To help and to not create harm. To empower and not disempower. To listen instead of just respond.

We often hear about learning lessons – but just as important is unlearning lessons. Have you ever had to unlearn a lesson?

What I had to unlearn, is that whatever works for one person, works for everyone else. The flip side of this teaching is that there’s more than “one way to get to Denny’s”. This is something I say often. What it means is that each one of us has our own unique path. That path can look similar to someone else’s, yet it is not the same. This is the natural law of relativity. Which in my opinion, is a teaching that isn’t discussed enough.

In my early twenties I was the friend that everyone went to about their problems. I was told how “strong” and “brave” I was. In a lot of ways this was me overcompensating. I gave advice and depended on others wanting my advice. All the while; I wasn’t working on what I needed to work on within myself. Then when people would come to me for advice about their problems that were similar to my own, I would tell them what they needed to do. I would then get upset if they didn’t follow that advice. This created inequity within my friendships. Eventually, I lost some of my friends. To my horror I realized that I was hypocritical. The very thing that got under my skin about so many others was contained within myself. Unacknowledged.

This experience helped me not only personally but also within my career. Not only did I learn the lesson of relativity, but deeper than that it taught me about the responsibility of the one who is the listener. Sometimes we are meant to just listen. Not to “fix”. That through actually listening we can hear what someone is actually needing. Then if they ask for advice or input, I can offer it. It they don’t, it isn’t consensual. This taught me about consent in relationships. It also taught me about self-righteousness, hypocrisy and judgment. This led to me to learning about equity and forming nondependent/interdependent relationships. Relationships that are about mutual empowerment, giving, sharing, and receiving. Whether it be work, collaboration, friendships, as a mom, an astrologer, or in general.

Any situation I ever judged in the past always confronted me. This is because I would end up finding myself in that same situation. That taught me about not judging. That we don’t always know until we walk in those “shoes”. We shouldn’t judge others because we are all here trying to evolve. Evolution comes through learning about correct and incorrect judgment calls. That it is actually beautiful to learn about our mistakes. That it means growth is occurring when we turn that into self-knowledge and wisdom by being accountable for our own choices.

This also taught me that for equity to happen in relationships (friendships, family, business, etc..) that playing the role of “all knowing” creates inequality. That natural humility is a must in every area of life. In order for equity to happen I have to understand someone’s common humanity. Then I have to not judge. Then my job becomes how do I help through empowering them? Empowering them in a way that helps them connect with their own inner truth, knowledge, and wisdom. Their own inner power. Usually this is just by validating their experience and asking a question in order for them to answer what it is that they came to me in the first place about. By asking them a question it helps them to come up with the solution they were seeking in the first place. This empowers because it shows them that they have their own inner authority even when it felt like they didn’t.

Each time this happens I am reminded that what works for one person doesn’t always work for another. There truly is “more than one way to get to Denny’s”.

Have any books or other resources had a big impact on you?

There are many books that I hold near and dear to me as they have become invaluable resources for me to draw upon. Here are a few that have profoundly helped shape me, my career, my business, and my philosophy in general. “On Relationships” by Krishnamurti has helped me immensely personally, professionally, and philosophically. This is because this short book is packed with an immense amount of knowledge that helped me to understand how to be objective. How to be a listener. How to remain sovereign while holding space in all relations.
When it comes to astrology, Pluto vol. I by Jeffery Wolf Green has been foundational. Not only does it go over archetypes and case studies, but it also goes over the astrologer/client relationship. To me this is very important when it comes to ethics in my astrological practice. Each time I pick this book up I learn either something new or there is an expansion of something old that gets deeper. The first time I picked this book up, I knew I wanted to become an evolutionary astrologer. It validated things I knew to be true that I didn’t have language for previously. Especially when it came to how I observed astrology.

There is also an old Evolutionary Astrology message board that has been a wealth of knowledge for me as an astrologer. Where I have been able to continue research and view past questions asked not only regarding astrological archetypes but questions relating to the astrologer/client relationship. This is on the school of evolutionary astrology forum website.
https://forum.schoolofevolutionaryastrology.com/

Lastly, The Great Cosmic Mother: Rediscovering the Religion of the Earth by Monica Sjöö & Barbara Mor. This book has connected me to the asteroids through deepening my understanding about their history. This book isn’t about asteroids perse; it is about the Goddess in Natural Law. The unfolding of how it became distorted throughout religion, manmade laws, and the evolving culture throughout history. It truly turns history into HERstory. There is a lot of research done by the authors of this book and it helps me to dive into the history of the asteroids that I study and research. It also has helped me reconnect with Nature Herself in a profound way.

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