Alright – so today we’ve got the honor of introducing you to Pia Isabel Roessle. We think you’ll enjoy our conversation, we’ve shared it below.
Pia Isabel, thanks for taking the time to share your stories with us today What did your parents do right and how has that impacted you in your life and career?
I have decided to share here what my parents did right with me, because I see the first formative years of a child’s life as groundbreaking for its later development and there cannot be enough awareness about this essential topic in circulation.
Even if upbringing (parenting) alone does not exclusively shape a person’s character, it at least has the power to either foster or barricade the potential that lies within it. People often wonder why I have been noticeably fearless, risk-taking and open-hearted from an early age until today. My mother is a very free-thinking, creative and instinctive person and my father is a kind-hearted, philanthropic psychologist. What I never heard from them was: “Be this way or that way to other people!” “Say thank you or please”, “Be quiet and nice.” “Give your uncle a kiss or a hug.”
Adults are often afraid that children will become rude, rebellious brutes if they are not “brought up” properly. They forget that children learn from models and imitate them. They also forget that kind, polite behavior is something that everyone has within them because we are social beings who have a natural capacity for love and knowledge of the importance of social interactions. When children are told to be kind, they develop a mask and lose the natural connection to their authentic heart expression.
When I was able to choose sweets somewhere, where a bag of gummy bears etc. was put together for me, the sales clerks would ask my mother in advance: “How much do you want it for?” And my mother replied: “My daughter will decide for herself!” The women were always surprised that I chose very little because I hadn’t been provoked into greed by a restrictive upbringing (education). I was allowed to develop the boundaries of my own needs.
When I was 36 and someone asked me during a magic mushroom trip what my father was and is like to me, I heard myself summarize from my higher self: “My father just always left me as I am and never tried to shape me or give me unsolicited advice, but when I needed him he was always there for me with the best life advice or book tips. Even in a practical way. He always acted as a pillar in the background. I realized at that moment that I was never educated, only developed.
And I do the same with my daughter Coco Indira (8 years old). And I get a lot of praise for the way she has turned out. Even though I don’t actually feel that I have ‘done’ anything. I let her be and showed her how I do it. In return, she recently told me: “Mom, I want to be a model, have a child at 34 and become a spiritual teacher.” I replied: “Oops, that’s exactly how I did it.” And then she said: “Yes Mom, because you are the happiest adult I know. You complain the least about your life!”.
Maybe that’s one of the secrets: Becoming happy yourself and never sacrificing yourself for a child. Because we are the main source of energy for them and it should always be topped up. What gushes out of us like a fountain is for others. If we sacrifice ourselves, the child thinks it has to give something back and feels guilty. Guilt is the worst feeling you can give a child. Dissolving guilt is a very laborious and lengthy therapeutic process. Guilt serves no useful purpose. Remorse does. But it has to be perceived intrinsically.
Many parents work with feelings of guilt. When I observe this, something inside me despairs.

As always, we appreciate you sharing your insights and we’ve got a few more questions for you, but before we get to all of that can you take a minute to introduce yourself and give our readers some of your back background and context?
Thanks to early exposure to psychedelic substances and a deep mystical initiation with the universal laws in my early 20s, my path led me to the profession of a psychedelic therapist.
After selling my holistic retreat center in the south of France, where I supported people come into connection due to silence practice, theta healing, dance, meditation and trauma-sensitive bodywork, I was drawn to a more penetrating and faster-acting method: psychedelic therapy.
This is not only relevant for people in distress. It is for everyone who wants to develop and expand their potential through self knowledge and for whom the few exclusion criteria do not apply.
The company Reality Upgrade (reality-upgrade.com/en), which I founded with the doctor med. Stefan Frädrich, conducts monthly psychedelic weekend retreats with a legal LSD variant in the Netherlands.
We organize longer retreats in Mexico where I live 6 months of the year (in Baja California with desert vibe and Riviera Maya in the jungle) where peyote or ayahuasca are also used.
We are particularly proud of our latest product “Iconic Leadership Summit” with Richard Branson on his private island in the Caribbean. The next event of this kind will take place from March 22-26, 2025.
Stefan Frädrich and I are currently working on a comprehensive psychedelics book, which will be published in spring 2025, to familiarize people with the revolutionary and massively healing potential of psychedelics and provide tips on how to use them. In 2025, we will also start our training to become a “Psychedelic Guide” and “Psychedelic Coach” so that as many people as possible can pass on this method with the appropriate respect and comprehensive, professional knowledge.

Learning and unlearning are both critical parts of growth – can you share a story of a time when you had to unlearn a lesson?
Those who grow up in the Western world learn to use their minds not only to analyze the past and notice the present, but also to anticipate the future and achieve it by holding on to concrete ideas.
The physical mind is also designed for the first two tasks. But it is a misconception to believe that the mind can know what the best future outcome might be. Nor can it do anything to ensure that this happens. If we try to actively strive for exactly the imagined results according to these ideas, we block the authority that is actually responsible for this, which is our higher self or higher mind. This one can create unexpected realizations that are much more beautiful and fulfilling than our physical mind could imagine. Manifestation techniques should therefore be treated with caution.
They can have a limiting effect. In addition, reality is always compared with the expected goals of the past.
This makes it more difficult to accept the present. This creates resistance and suffering.
It is therefore important to create a state of being in which the physical mind and the higher self can work together in a harmonious tandem.
To do this, it is important that we are in an open, receptive state without being fixated on conditions. A state that embraces the now and primarily vibrates in a pleasant energetic frequency state. We achieve this by pursuing tasks that trigger the greatest joy in us.
This has been something I have had to get used to and has taken a lot of stress out of my system once it was internalized.
Life now feels more light-footed and I give the higher self tasks that my mind can’t solve. I am never too specific, because the results that followed were always greater than I would have dared to dream.

What do you think helped you build your reputation within your market?
I believe that people consciously or unconsciously perceive whether someone is really living what they are saying or whether they just want to portray a spiritual personality in order to stage themselves or earn money with it.
I think people today value authenticity more than ever and are less and less likely to be fooled. They sense that there needs to be a radical shift towards truthfulness in order to reduce the evil in the world. A hermetic law of nature states that the pendulum between the poles (e.g. good and evil) does not have to swing between the extremes, but can move ever closer to the center if people react less reactively and more equanimously to events. This gives hope for a more peaceful coexistence. In order to actually get out of this pendulum game of extremes, people need to understand their true nature and take their ideas about themselves less seriously. This is automatically followed by a more intuitive way of being and a release from the fear of external judgment.
I perceive the world more energetically and sensually. I try to follow the laws of physics and quantum physics and only resist when it arises from self-love and self-care. Perceiving the world through feeling is my top priority. And by that I don’t just mean with my heart, but with my entire energy body. Being able to consciously control this energy body with my consciousness means freedom for me. This is what I embody and this is my teaching. When embodiment and teaching are congruent, people take you seriously.
Contact Info:
- Website: https://www.reality-upgrade.com/en
- Instagram: @Pia_isabel_int (international) @pia_isabel__ (german) @reality_upgrade_retreat



