We recently connected with Marla Mase and have shared our conversation below.
Marla, thanks for taking the time to share your stories with us today Can you open up about a risk you’ve taken – what it was like taking that risk, why you took the risk and how it turned out?
Well, first off, I want to say that everything we do is a risk. Life is a risk.
Every second of every day, a risk.
Being young and vulnerable is a risk –
Falling in love/exposing one’s heart is a risk –
Standing up for oneself is a risk –
Becoming a parent is a risk – (I used to joke, “You become an asshole when you become a parent”.)
Getting older, looking at your face in the mirror, driving a car, crossing the street, speaking your mind, not speaking your mind – all of it a risk.
Hey, accepting to be born, accepting to be a human in this world is a risk. After all, we don’t know how our lives are going to turn out, what may or may not befall us. It’s essentially agreeing to go on a mission blindly with these few conditions : “You will not know why you are here, what will happen to you, and when it will be time to leave.”
Do you accept?
So yeah, life in of itself is inherently risky.
Bravo to all of us for taking it on.
Okay, here we go….
Truthfully, I wake up fearful every day. So much to be afraid of. Yet, there is equally as much to be grateful for. Equally as much to be curious about. So much to explore and yet I am often afraid. Really Marla? Even after all these years. Yes, I am human.
A long time ago before I was afraid, I was really really afraid. Afraid to be alone, afraid to try something out of my comfort zone, afraid to do something I wasn’t good at or had never tried before, afraid to walk up a flight of stairs (I was petrified of my heart racing;I didn’t think it would ever slow down and that was because I had panic attacks that told me I was having a heart attack), generalized anxiety disorder as ‘they’ like to call it, I was afraid of confrontation, and yet on the surface my life seemed normal, more than normal, it seemed stellar. It was stellar. Great parents, wonderful husband, 2 beautiful kids, a bohemian life in Tribeca NYC, lots of friends…health…
Then life did what life does. It threw me challenges, real tough ones – my marriage began to fall apart (TBH partly because of my panic attacks. I thought that the attacks indicated that something was awry in my life – aka my marriage) and if I fixed that ‘awry’ they, the attacks, would go away. Also, my daughter was falling apart – anorexic/depressed/cutting/
My unlicensed therapist (hah?) / healer at the time told me, “Marla, only the bravest people have the courage to break down” — I didn’t feel brave, I was weak, I was a failure, I was defective, I couldn’t manage my fears, I couldn’t walk up stairs, I couldn’t fly, I couldn’t take vitamins, I couldn’t smile, and I definitely couldn’t help my daughter, Every minute of every day was torture. One long infinite anxiety attack. I began to understand for the first time my daughter’s desire to not be here.
One day I was driving up the West Side Highway in Manhattan and I noticed that when I sang along with the song on the radio, I felt a tiny bit better. You have to understand there was no better at that point, so that second of serenity was everything to me. It was a glimmer of hope that I hadn’t had for months. I started to sing each morning after I dropped my son off at school. At that point, my daughter was at a treatment center in Utah (her 5th in 4 years) and would be there for 17 months – first it was songs from musicals “The Sound of Music”, “Cabaret”, “Chicago”, then I switched to The Doors, The Kinks, “Because the Night”, “The Book of Love”. It was my respite from fear.
I then started to bring these songs to my acting class. I had never sang before. Not in public. Barely in private. I had a longstanding tape in my head that told me I couldn’t sing…ever since I was in 6th grade when I was put on the wait list for the glee club. I got in, but it scarred me. But the gift of desperation was desperate enough to do anything to calm my broken nerves. At first, I sang those show tunes and would match them up with my original monologues and then I started writing songs. One after another they came to me, it was a deluge. How could this be? I was not the songwriter in the family. Eventually I decided to perform my songs, they were part of a one woman show I was writing called “A Brief Night Out”. At that point I thought, “Fuck it, I am afraid of everything anyway so I might as well get on that stage, perform my show, and sing my songs. Who cares ? What do I have to lose?” And so, I did it. I sang.
15 years later —
Since that time, I have released 5 albums, 3 EPS, performed around the world with my band (I’m going on tour in the UK at the beginning of March), put up 3 huge theatrical performance pieces based on my albums at legendary theatres in NYC, had a sold out run of my play “The Pill” at La MaMa ETC in NYC, have been a featured performer at SXSW, on the eclectic Daytrotter (now defunct), performed at music festivals around the US as well as at the 1st International Peace Festival in Linzhou China where I was given a Messenger of Peace Award for my work as a visionary artist.
So hell yeah, Breakdown Breakthrough !!
And the crazy thing is that the universe, the world said yes, yes, yes!! to all of it. Me doing my brand of music/performance art and thankfully I had the balls to do it. Okay, granted, it came out of my desperation (there’s that word again) aka willingness to quell that fear and anxiety and somehow that instinct to survive not only saved me but cracked me open to do things I never even had dreamed of.
To top it off, I was a woman in her 40’s when this all happened!
In my wildest dreams never ever would I have imagined I’d be where I am today, that any of this would be possible, I used to say, “I really should have been a rocker, but I don’t sing and I don’t write music. Oh well. Next life.”
So yeah, never put limitations on yourself. Take the risk – because the truth is your entire life is a risk and take a good hard look at your fears -they may be holding the you you’ve been waiting your entire life for.
At least that’s what happened to me.
Am I still scared? Hell yeah –but I don’t have panic attacks (unless there’s a global pandemic – hah) and when I’m scared, I remind myself that I am a human and I have every right to be. I then hug myself and go on living.

As always, we appreciate you sharing your insights and we’ve got a few more questions for you, but before we get to all of that can you take a minute to introduce yourself and give our readers some of your back background and context?
I am a writer, performer, singer/songwriter. I started most of these things later in life. (in my 30’s and beyond.)
I am also an event planner, a mother, an injured yogi, a cat lover….
I have put up various solo shows, plays, and large multi-media/multi-disciplinary theatrical concerts. In fact, every one of my albums has been made into a show.
I am going on tour in the UK March 1 – March 12 with the True Groove All-Stars.
I answered in some of the other questions how I got into music – but before music there was writing/performance (I also fell into that the same way I fell into music – out of having a hard time, out of complete and utter terror — hey terror might just be the signal that there’s a trapped part of me that needs to come out and be heard – and discovering that what I thought was nothing special – my journaling, my long stream of consciousness writing, was exactly what resonated with people – basically the thing that was easy for me. Most of my songs and plays originate from this source.
I used to have the false belief that if it’s easy for me, it’s not worth doing, and what I should really be focusing on is what is I can’t do – like sing opera, dance ballet, be a virtuoso pianist, paint like Kahlo, be an Olympian swimmer, etc etc etc. In my head I heard yeah you can do that but what about this? what about that? Clearly you are not enough. You don’t have what it takes. The story of how I got into solo performance is on my website so I won’t repeat it here…but in short, I tried something on someone’s suggestion that I knew without a doubt that I was not. Something that terrified me. I took a class and discovered that what I was not was actually what resonated and was what I was really good at.
Before all this, I was a goody goody, a girl from Canarsie Brooklyn who thought she might be a lawyer because that’s what was expected of her. An A student, a rule follower, and before all that I was a tomboy.
Cocky and confident. I wasn’t scared of anyone because I knew my big brother would protect me and I wasn’t afraid of jumping off the concrete wall in our backyard.
Admittedly, I wear a lot of hats. Many of which I don’t think I should be wearing because I am not REALLY those things. I guess you’re catching on to the pre-dominant theme of my life. To combat these false beliefs, I try and follow the adage – “What I think of myself is none of business.” (the real adage is “What other people think of me is none of my business.”)
I am a writer / I am a performer/ I am a recording artist. /I am a businesswomen.
I’m also the C.O.O. (aka ‘the mob boss’ ) of the indie record label True Groove Records. I partnered with Tomás Doncker (he is the co-writer & producer of my songs; he is also a prolific songwriter/producer and world class guitarist and music director) and James Dellatacoma (genius engineer, studio head, producer) in 2014. We had been working together for a while at that point. As I just said, Tomás was the co-writer of my songs and Tomás and James produced my albums. Tomás was the person who convinced me to take the songs I had been writing in my one person show “A Brief Night Out” and turn them into an album. He said I had to build on the momentum I was creating. One of the best pieces of advice I ever got. Six months after the release of “A Brief Night Out” in 2010, I released my 2nd album “Speak” (2011) and then “Speak Deluxe.” We turned Speak into a multi-media multi disciplinary performance concert and performed it at NYC Summerstage in 2013. It was a huge show with a 10-piece band, 7 dancers, 5 actors and me. A few months later, Tomás asked me to join him in running True Groove – he admired my perseverance and my gumption and of course we also partnered with James Dellatacoma. Since that time in 2014 we have produced over 500 songs and 140 projects. All genres from funk, soul, future, future roots, Black Americana, pop, rock, punk, spoken word, etc etc etc. I am very proud of our work. We have been called the ‘fastest rising indie label in NYC.”
Tomás and James are a brilliant producing team — and they are both formidable artists and musicians. Google them right now. Seriously.
On a side note, I’m also an event planner. I’ve produced over 3000 events in NYC these past 25 years. My most recent incarnation is amoredamatti.com with indigo girl, visual artist, stylist, magic maker Monica Abbatemaggio.
We, True Groove, just produced our first feature film, cult horror filmmaker Dylan Mars Greenberg’s “Spirit Riser” — we have known Dylan since she’s 18 years old (she’s now 26), she has directed many of our music videos and she is an integral player in our label. Dylan is a genius. The film premieres on March 30 at The Museum of Moving Image in NYC. We also contributed music to the film — James mixed, mastered and contributed to the sound design, he also has a song in the film. I also have a song in the film and Tomás and James scored and wrote the theme music.
II wrote a show with my Dad. It’s called “Being Somebody….a father/daughter tale” about what it was like for him growing up in Brooklyn in the 1940s/50 and for me in the 1970’s. We had 4 sold out performances at 3 Off-Bdwy theatres last year, directed by Elizabeth Browning. We have already booked shows in 2024 in New York, Long Island, Rhode Island, Florida and New Jersey. It’s been an incredible journey. He made his NYC stage debut at 87 years old and he’s killing it. He’s a super star. He always has been — he has mentees that can’t make a move without speaking with him every single day. Yes, He still works. He’s an organizational psychologist. To witness him going way beyond his comfort zone and to embrace it 1000% is beyond inspiring. The reason: my mother, his beloved wife of 66 years died at the end of 2022 (Covid) and he knew he needed to do something drastic, to expand where he gets his love from, and man o man did he achieve this goal and then some.
One of my strengths is that I say yes to projects. Jumping in is not hard for me. I love people and I love collaborating which is one of the reasons I love theatre and performance so much.
One last thing: I’m working on a movement piece for non-dancers – it will feature the emotional terrain of 5 women, each of whom will tell her story with as few words as possible — through movement we will see her struggles and her triumphs, her false vision of herself — the trials she has experienced — and how it has reframed her. I am working with an internationally renown choreographer/artist. I am very very excited about this project. Top secret for now.
In short: (clearly terseness is not my forte)
I write songs. I write plays. I write one person shows. I write theatrical concerts.
I am a producer of shows, events, music videos, and now films.
I hope my work/my stories will in some way help others (especially young people) to believe in themselves and in this life.
It’s a hard time. I know.
Still….

Can you share a story from your journey that illustrates your resilience?
…..However, the story doesn’t end there…because as we all know life continues on….I say unfortunately, not because, I don’t have huge blessings in my life, I do, but because in 2017 my daughter Lael Summer killed herself. After 13 years of struggling with depression, an eating disorder, and suicide ideation (she had attempted to kill herself a few times) (and yes, she also had many bright spots and lots of recovery along the way) she finally lost her battle with the Black Dog – Depression.
Major Depressive Disorder. MDD.
Please, if someone tells you they have it, understand that it is a very serious illness. It kills.
Despite all the blessings. Despite all the gifts.
As she herself said to me,
“Mom, I know I have a great family and wonderful friends, and blessing upon blessing, but mom I can’t do this, I can’t keep being pushed down into the darkness over and over again, only to be let out into the light for a little while, knowing it’s going to drag me back down into the darkness and drown me all over again. I’m a sick sick girl Mom.”
Yeah, she had it all – intelligence, beauty, talent (she had the most beautiful voice I ever heard and was an incredible singer/songwriter). She also had a gorgeous tender heart full of kindness and compassion, that was just too damn pained by the harshness of this world. She couldn’t beat it. At least not on that day, July 26, 2017. That day she succumbed. She was 24 years old, one month away from turning 25.
She jumped off the George Washington Bridge in NYC.
What can I say? It sucks. It’s heartbreaking. It’s devastating.
My worst fear, that she would kill herself (she had at least 2 previous suicide attempts), happened — I knew it might and it did. I learned the harsh truth that it doesn’t always work out. “Mom, I can’t promise you a happy ending” and yes it tore apart the very ground I walk upon as well as my son’s, her father’s and everyone else who loved her. I remember saying to myself a few days after she died, “I can feel every cell in my body being re-sculpted”. People would ask, “How are you doing?” I’d say “I’m walking. I’m talking.” People were afraid for me, that I might harm myself but honestly, I never ever, not even for a second wanted to die. I’m saying this because I’m in a lot of groups with mothers who lost children and many of them do say they want to die. Especially, if they lost their child to suicide. Even if they have other children, even if they have jobs they love, a spouse they adore, parents, friends, doesn’t matter, they lose their will to live. Most do continue on, thank G-d, but it is not an easy road. Not at all. But, as beaten as I was I knew that I wanted to live, that I still had my life and that it was my destiny to live it.. I kept hearing a voice inside say, “Its not my time, it’s not my destiny, I”m here for the long haul…..”
What can I say? I have a strong life force.
The day Lael died was the day La Mama Experimental Theatre Company agreed to produce our family memoir, “The Pill”. It was a play that me, Lael, my son, my father and mother all wrote together. A black comedy about our family’s struggles with dealing with an anorexic/depressed teenage daughter. A “Rashomon” of sorts where each character gets to give their perspective on a particular story that happened . It was the story that I mentioned earlier about taking Lael’s anti-depressant by accident which was the precursor to my ‘breakdown.” We started it at the end of 2015 when Lael was stable and everything seemed to be ‘on track.’
Every word in that play was written by someone in the family – by the pieces they each wrote about the incident (I asked each person to write what they remembered — each contributed — my son’s version was a teleplay, mine was a play, Lael’s was a memory piece, my father wrote an analysis and we interviewed my mom) , as well as writings from Lael’s journals when she was a teenager and very active in her eating disorder, and writings from my son when he was in elementary and middle school. It was pretty amazing and said a lot about the closeness of our family that they each did it – happily.
The fact that we were given the green light and found a producing theatre to do the show on the day she died (we got the good news earlier in the day, she died later – no connection) gave me purpose when she died and the PS in her suicide note was “Mom, Yanai, finish The Pill. Big things could happen.” So, yeah, I had a purpose, a mission – it was a great gift. I also put up the show I was working on at the time of her death, a post-truth fairy tale directed by Lisa Milinazzo, based on my album “Miracles~Lost & Found”. We were scheduled to perform it on August 5 at The Colony in Woodstock NY, but then she died so it was postponed. Actually, Tomás Doncker & The True Groove All-Stars took that date and performed up there and I went with them. I mean what else was I to do? I ended up performing that day — I did 2 of my songs. I remember seeing the mother of one of my bandmates and when she saw me she turned white and started crying. I guess she couldn’t believe that I was there just 10 days after my daughter died. I performed even earlier than that, possibly even before they found my daughter’s body at The Bowery Electric in NYC. Again, I did two songs. Again, what else was I supposed to do plus I felt safe being with the band. I remember a friend of mine came to that show, she loved my daughter so much, and after I performed my two songs we were speaking outside the club and she out of the blue fell to the floor. She fainted! I think others were feeling for us (me and my son) what we could not. Thank G-d for shock. It really helps in those early days.
Anyway, I decided to put up, “Miracles~Lost & Found” that December, a month before we were to start rehearsals and production of “The Pill”. I wanted to close out the year, 2017, (the last year that Lael would ever alive in this physical realm) with the message of this show, that we are all wandering souls, united in our grief, in our joy, and in our losses, and that it is up to us to find the miracle that is our time here together on this earth.
“I want to be alive with you.
I want to feel alive.
I want to be alive with you.
It’s the best thing we can do.”

Is there mission driving your creative journey?
When people ask me, “What type of music do you do?” I tell them “I do Marla Mase. I do Marla Mase really well.” That’s my mission – to be me, to accept me, to be unapologetically myself because hey that’s all I got; and hopefully if I do that then other people, particularly young people will have the courage to be who they are and not to believe all the confusing messages out there that to be who you are is not enough. That there is something else to strive for, to be and that you must fix who you are….Bullshit.
It is a hard time out there for young people.
I’ll leave it at that.
I want people to know that they are not alone.
Never alone. That there are billions of us out here.
That there is hope.
For me, it’s all about Connection – that’s why I do any of this – to be in a room with you somewhere in this world, Communing….even for a little while.
For me, that’s as good as it gets.

Contact Info:
- Website: https://www.marlamase.com/
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- Youtube: https://youtu.be/P-bcaxDy74o?si=I2MwXx1Si1gx14h_
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Image Credits
Becky Yee, William Murray, Carly O’Neil, Patrick Hilaire

