We were lucky to catch up with Eric Gilliatt recently and have shared our conversation below.
Eric, appreciate you joining us today. It’s easy to look at a business or industry as an outsider and assume it’s super profitable – but we’ve seen over and over again in our conversation with folks that most industries have factors that make profitability a challenge. What’s biggest challenge to profitability in your industry?
In 2014 we’d gone from myself and my assistant installer to a staff of 4 installers and I finally handed off payroll responsibilities to my accountant. We were taking on bigger and more complex projects, with one of our proudest accomplishments in managing and completing nearly all of the commissioned art installation for the $1b rebuild of the Lucille Packard Children’s Hospital in Palo Alto, CA. This opportunity launched us forward into being able to offer more project management for clients. As such we finally created an HR Dept to take over the payroll and accounting of the company as we leveled up for the next phase.
That 5 year period from 2014 to 2019 was exciting and aspiring. We have always managed to do a lot with very little, relying on hiring exceptional people who have creative freedom to make an impact and express their artistic talent. We had a steady staff of 4 installers, including myself, and 2 back of house staff taking care of HR, billing and scheduling. But as the COVID pandemic spread in 2020, all of that momentum and optimism came to a screeching halt. Strangely, the work was still there for many months into the crisis. A lot of our clients had ongoing large scale projects with firm completion deadlines, and things were still uncertain as how to address working in this new environment. We were on the verge of starting a huge government art and display installation contract for the new Navy HQ in downtown San Diego, so when construction projects were deemed “essential” we had a way to keep the doors open, albeit with much tighter OSHA guidelines. However, the biggest hurdle at the beginning of that uncertain time was giving employees confidence that it was safe to go to work with all of our safety preparations. Morale was at an all time low understandably, and keeping people healthy, motivated and employed was a massive challenge. Some of our staff were furloughed while we muscled through the first several months of the pandemic. Fortunately by having a great HR Dept, we were able to navigate the personnel minefield COVID presented, and get into both rounds of PPP loans, which thankfully kept the business afloat while we staggered from job to job until 2022.
Awesome – so before we get into the rest of our questions, can you briefly introduce yourself to our readers.
While in college, to make ends meet I’d been doing custom picture framing at The Frame Maker in San Diego and was eventually trained as an Art Installer, since they offered that as a service to their clients. Over time, as my interest in college began to wane, I focused more and more on getting proficient at Art Installation. My boss gave me a bit of freedom to run this part of his business, and I enjoyed the instant creative input I could have on our clients. Seeing how satisfied they were with someone taking something so personal as their artwork and giving a place in their home or work gave me a buzz. After several years of running the Installation Dept at TFM I begin building up a client base separate from the picture framing they offered, and clients were looking to hire “me” for my reputation as a reliable talent. However, I wasn’t making a lot of money, seeing what my boss was charging for my labor, and after awhile things came to a head. He gave me a choice, I could either take over that part of the business entirely, with him helping me get on my feet for a year. Or I was fired, and I could figure it out on my own. Either way, he didn’t want to hear any more of my complaining (to put it nicely). After some negotiations on the start up percentage that we would split, my company was born and I became my own boss. It was the most thrilling and scary period of my life. On top of it all, in the exact same timeframe, I met and married my wife, who’s been my biggest supporter and foundation throughout this journey for the past 25 years.
As I ran the business over the next several years, what was becoming apparent to me was that I couldn’t continue to do it alone. I was beginning to experience severe burnout from the physical and metal toll of the job. I had been working continuously as an Art Installer for nearly 10 years by the time I was 31, but had no formal business background to lean into to help me figure out how to grow the company and hire people. So what did I do? I quit. Well, not entirely. I got an offer from a client of mine at the time who owned a company that did light construction and interior design. I was hired to do art installation in house for them, bringing my client list with me. It was a step down financially, but for me the draw was to learn a new skill in construction methods in order to become a supervisor. I signed a year contract on the promise of advancement after my internship. Needless to say, it was the most difficult time of my young career to date. I had the direct ear of the owner of the company, and thought I was hired to bring a fresh perspective to his company. But I spent the year being told “no” time and time again whenever I had anything outside their normal procedures to suggest. When my year was up, it was mutually agreed we would part ways, and after taking some time to reflect, I started my company back up again. I was a much stronger person, having had to fight so hard against a company culture that didn’t align with my core values of saying what your going to do, do it, and stand by it. I also had a new database of construction knowledge that could help me grow my company. To my surprise, nearly all of my clients welcomed me back and immediately wanted to renew ties. That was gratifying, but I couldn’t shake the feeling of failure until several more years into running the business, when my wife turned me onto authors like Simon Sinek and Mike Robbins. Learning about failure, and being able to contextualize it both personally and professionally in a healthy way helped me see the value of decisions we make in the moment, and how to separate our ego from the story. This path eventually led me to my WHY, and finally an outline to give my business the purpose it deserved and was always there in front of me, I just had to stop and look at it without the lens of judgment.
In isolation, art installation in its theory isn’t a difficult task. Pick a location, decide on a height, knock a couple of picture hooks in the wall, and hang the picture. Done. Not so hard. Maybe it’s straight, maybe it’s where you wanted it, maybe it’ll stay on the wall. Maybe you hired a handyman to hang it, and all of the above is maybe good enough. Lots of “maybes” but no certainty.
From the outset I wanted the WHY of Level One Art Installation to provide a level of creative service to its clients that exceeds their expectations and take the Maybe out of the dialogue. I’ve always loved art, and have had a deep emotional connection with the art I identify with. That’s not unique. The way we see “Art” in its basic purpose to us as human beings is to enrich our lives and give it meaning and definition. We use art to decorate our lives, be it in the workplace, public spaces, or our homes. The artwork a business chooses to install in the workplace can be a reflection of its outlook or mission. Just as the artwork someone chooses to install in their homes can be a reflection of the way they see the world, or would like to see the world or themselves. It’s the one thing (along with politics) we as humans all have an unfiltered opinion about, thereby making it one of the most personal and subjective things in our day to day existence. And because of that personal connection to it, it can be hard for clients to know how to approach how their artwork should be handled or installed to look its best in their private or public domain.
This is where the dialogue begins at Level One with our clients. Our sole purpose is to take the uncertainty out of the Art Installation process and make it finite. Giving our clients the support and confidence their artwork will be handled and respected in the manner they would most like to see it, and in a way that gives them assurance that they are in capable hands. What we strive for is perfection in our process from when the client contacts us, right up until we leave the jobsite from another successfully finished project. Across our field from homeowners and Interior Designers, to architects, Art Consultants, corporations and construction supervisors, our goal is to give them the certainty that their project will be handled and completed correctly the first time, every time. That takes experience, a dedication to getting the details right each step of the process, and not letting problems take over the narrative. My favorite truism for our company is “work the problem, don’t let the problem work you”. For that to happen, you have to take your ego out of it in order to see the opportunities that arise within situations that aren’t going the way you’d planned. This is how we’re different from other companies. Where others will run away from a project or problem, we run towards it to find the solution. In everything we strive for at Level One, we are supporting our motto “The Art of Installation”.
What do you think helped you build your reputation within your market?
From the outset my core principles of standing by my word and not giving excuses has been the foundation of building this business. Give clients realistic timelines, price estimates, and what is possible and what is not possible. A reputation is reinforced not when things are going well, that’s easy. But when things don’t go as planned or the unexpected happens, that’s the opportunity for your company to lean into the situation and correct the problem. You may gain respect for your actions, you may lose that cleint’s business, but you can move forward knowing you did the right thing regardless, and you’ll hopefully learn to do better the next time a similar situation arises. Conversely, always saying “yes” is a compelling way to get business, but will you end up successful or just over leveraged? Being willing and brave enough to say “no” sometimes, and knowing when, is a useful tool that takes time to understand.
We pride ourselves on our honesty and integrity in the way we approach running this company and working with our clients. Sometimes we lose business because of our unwillingness to bullshit people, and that’s ok. We want clients that believe in our message and the services we offer and the way we execute those services. Not because we have some high moral ground we want to stand on, but because in the long run, relationships that are forged in honesty have staying power.
In my experience, this is how your reputation stays intact. By being the company in your industry, whatever that may be, that is reliable and always follows through. A company that will give its clients the support they are paying for by using experience and innovation to find solutions to the problems they need resolved will always find their market.
Do you have any insights you can share related to maintaining high team morale?
This is probably the toughest role in being the owner of such a small company. As the captain goes, so goes the ship. It’s imperative to the smooth functioning of this company that everyone is on the same page, because we are all covering each others roles. There’s really no slacking off, so if anyone is having a bad day, it’s up to all of us to rally for that person to help get through whatever is that’s bothering them. During COVID this was especially difficult, and our company really pushed for more Mental Health Days, and tried to make the workplace a safe space for employees to be open about their struggles, while making every effort to respect privacy. The PPP loans helped immensely with this, as we were able to offer an allotted additional paid days off beyond the traditional PTO, holidays and accrued sick days.
However, finding the right people that fit into the company’s ethos is essential to keeping moral in check. Just because a person’s CV fits the requirements of the job, it doesn’t mean they’ll automatically be a fit for the company. We went through several transitions of personnel during COVID trying to find the right balance, and only after a lot of painful trial and error have we finally settled into a good flow of like minded personalities that compliment each other.
Finally, one of the biggest things learned in keeping moral high is to reward good work often. Make sure your employees know they’re valued. Listen to their issues and validate their concerns, even if you may not always agree with them. Give them the creative freedom within your company to have a voice and impact. If there’s a conflict or concern address it as soon as possible and take ownership of any shortsightedness on your part. Leading by example is critical to maintaining respect, but don’t be afraid to let people go if they’re not reinforcing the values and vision of your company. Lastly, give employees the promotions they deserve when they perform well and show investment in your vision. Every relationship in life is transactional. Be it in love, friendship, business, employment, you name it. So in order for relationships to run smoothly and prosper there has to be a balance. Finding and maintaining that balance is the key to success and growth.
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