We caught up with the brilliant and insightful Camille Williams a few weeks ago and have shared our conversation below.

Camille, thanks for taking the time to share your stories with us today Was there a moment in your career that meaningfully altered your trajectory? If so, we’d love to hear the backstory.

At 16 I was diagnosed with ovarian cancer. This diagnosis and treatment changed the trajectory of my life. Post cancer I developed endometriosis which lead to me requiring a hysterectomy. Being in menopause as a then 28 year old, my body changed, my sex drive changed, and my energy changed; then the Love, Sex, and Applied Behavior Analysis podcast and Becoming Unfckwithable was birthed. I created these platform businesses as a means to deploy the science of Behavior Analysis, Mindfulness, and Black Positive Psychology to prompt the collective awakening of the decolonization of pleasure. As a Self-Love Behavioral Scientist, my work prioritizes the uplift, protection, pleasure, and freedom of all Black peoples, with a divine dedication to Black femmes, mascs, androgynous, and trans beings, especially those who’s medical history has negatively impacted their bodies and sexual health. I have created pleasure-based education and practices to shape the enhancement of both sexual pleasure and non-sexual pleasure alike.

Camille, before we move on to more of these sorts of questions, can you take some time to bring our readers up to speed on you and what you do?

Camille “Cammie” Williams ( she/her) is metro-Detroit native who received her Bachelor of Science from Western Michigan University in Psychology and Gender & Women’s Studies, and her Master of Science from Nova Southeastern in Counseling with an emphasis on Applied Behavior Analysis. She is a student in the Doctoral program through Arizona State University for Behavior Health. She is a Black, lesbian, cis ADHD-haver, whose work and practice, above all else, centers Black liberation. As a Board Certified Self-Love Behavioral Scientist, Cammie’s work prioritizes the uplift, protection, pleasure, and freedom of all Black peoples, with a divine dedication to Black femmes, mascs, androgynous, and trans beings. Cammie is the host of the podcast, Love, Sex, and Applied Behavior Analysis (LSABA), the co-founder of Behavior Analysts in Military Families (BAMF), and currently sits as the Vice President of The Black Association of Behavior Analysts (BABA) Inc. She is a childhood ovarian cancer survivor, patient advocate, and scientific reviewer for upcoming research on ovarian cancer; She is also a clinical director within the field of applied behavior analysis (ABA), a karaoke enthusiast, and a lover of intentional nothingness. You can find Cammie’s podcast across all platforms and a few of her products on Etsy here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/BeUnfckwithable

Learning and unlearning are both critical parts of growth – can you share a story of a time when you had to unlearn a lesson?

After cancer and endometriosis, I felt broken. I felt unwanted and like no one could ever love me, my new body, and the emotional and mental state that cancer and endometriosis had thrusted upon me. Through time, therapy, mindfulness, and love from my wife, I learned that I am enough, that I always have been, and that I always will be.

Do you think you’d choose a different profession or specialty if you were starting now?

I would absolutely choose the same profession. I love being a Behavioral Scientist. I love studying human behavior and the environments in which behaviors occur. The science of behavior analysis is so vast and can be used to support a plethora of people and social issues.

Contact Info:

• Website: https://becomingunfcked.com
• Instagram: Lovesexaba
• Soundcloud: Love, Sex, and Applied Behavior Analysis